where he describes sending an AI generated email response as "the most polite fuck you to someone that they will never know".
The original email asked him sth like "how many parameters does deepseek v3 have" that "he could have easily searched himself".
qiine 2 days ago [-]
PewDiePie on Hackernews what a time to be alive!
tomwojcik 2 days ago [-]
You laugh you lose
reconnecting 2 days ago [-]
> Fun fact: a chunk of Odysseus was built *from a phone* -- mobile shells (Termux), the PWA install, and on-device agents. So "works on mobile" isn't an afterthought, it's where a lot of it actually happened.
Because I've seen AI do it myself? It will very readily take a lofty aim from the brainstorming phase, maybe mentioned off-hand or out of context in a planning doc somewhere, and regardless of if it's implemented it will claim it's part of the delivered product.
v11climbs 2 days ago [-]
Not hating because his project is very cool but this is just a python UI on top of other oss - I'm only saying this bc team at Princeton and I have been building wthis but ground up in rust with more utility and running more custom tools, app integration, custom kernels outperforming llamacpp much more here www.conifer.build
ddrdrck_ 1 days ago [-]
Is it required to register to try and use your service. If I want local AI it is precisely to avoid having to register to a third party service. What am I missing here ?
vasco 1 days ago [-]
Yours is paid and with a waitlist.
beanjuiceII 1 days ago [-]
no github, tiny screenshots on websites, is this malware?
julianeon 2 days ago [-]
That looks good - nice to have an alternative too.
luka2233 2 days ago [-]
that looks nice. Is it open source? The links to Github are not working
Axsuul 2 days ago [-]
Can anyone recommend something similar but cleaner and more polished?
AnthonyR 2 days ago [-]
Maybe I am misunderstanding but I feel like https://www.jan.ai/ is similar and works great for me
himhckr 2 days ago [-]
We are working on Msty Claw that's local, private, and no telemetry as well: https://msty.ai/claw
embedding-shape 2 days ago [-]
When was the first release of this? Parent mentioned "polished" so I'd assume something at least a 6-12 months old, but that looks kind of brand new.
nl 2 days ago [-]
This wasn't possible 12 months ago, and barely 6 months ago.
embedding-shape 1 days ago [-]
Alright, so couldn't possibly be polished by now then, thanks!
biinjo 2 days ago [-]
Interesting. I would not think of age when someone requests “cleaner and more polished”. My mind translates that to “nicer UI”
embedding-shape 1 days ago [-]
"Polishing" is something you do over time, and requires usage over time together with refinements, you can't spend a couple of hours refining the UI and suddenly it's "polished", at least in my mind.
mindcrash 1 days ago [-]
Lemonade, in particular if you are running AMD hardware due to extra optimization (Ryzen AI series CPUs with integrated NPU and/or Radeon GPUs):
TL/DR - "cleaner and more polished" implies no vibe coded slop, and the only reason people start these projects in 2026 is because they're addicted to vibe slop coding.
patosullivan 2 days ago [-]
Why not just use open webui?
andai 2 days ago [-]
I tried installing openwebui once. I gave up after the first 12 gigabytes of pip packages. Made my own LLM chat UI in 500 lines of HTML/JS. That's really all I needed.
This project does look fun though.
redrove 1 days ago [-]
Wow, if you you could've just done docker compose up. I guess we'll never know.
enos_feedler 2 days ago [-]
did you share your UI anywhere? would like to just pull a proven one versus vibe code my own.
jerieljan 2 days ago [-]
Surprisingly, there's a lot of items I'm seeing at first glance here at Odysseus that open-webui either doesn't have or takes extra effort to add in and I've used the latter for a really long time already.
Stuff like an agent mode, deep research and document work are things you'd be able to have with open-webui as well but Odysseus seems to have them thought out.
thayne 2 days ago [-]
Open webui isn't fully open source, because it doesn't allow you to change or remove Open Webui branding.
I don't know if that was a motivation for creating this, but it is a reason some people might choose not to use it.
dakolli 2 days ago [-]
The truth is, there's something about the vibe coder hive mind where they all create the same thing. Everyone is working on the same thing. There's hundreds of projects like this where the creator thinks they've created the most unique powerful thing.
I think it demonstrates how overuse of LLMs for brainstorming/planning and building destroys creativity. That zeitgeist changes from month to month, but when a vibe coded "AI Native" project gets released you'll always see dozens of people in the replies talking about the identical project they've also built or are working on.
I also notice this in my own work, the people who have most eaten the LLM brainworm will come to me asking for us to build the same projects. They all eventually converge to wanting some sort of power user app (like this) that can just do everything because AI is magic to them and there's no reason why it can't do everything.
I hate Peter Thiel but he has that famous quote form years ago where he says not to build the obvious thing because the obvious thing isn't special, so maybe this has always been a phenomenon.
skeledrew 2 days ago [-]
I think the thing is users run into the same problems (barely desirable tool UX), and arrive at very similar solutions (but with their own small twists and preferences). And now that the barrier to make things is essentially gone, they jump in and make things that git their own desires week because nothing out there was an exact fit.
Like I found a really cool project a few weeks ago that I started using and even made a few QoL changes to. Then I thought of the many other changes I wanted, and that the project was written in a language I'm not familiar with (Rust), and I started a port in what I know well (Python) so that I'll be able to actually review the code if needed and generally make better architectural decisions.
doright 2 days ago [-]
It's like the Lisp Curse but for everything now.
anigbrowl 2 days ago [-]
Blockchain solves this
BoredPositron 2 days ago [-]
It's personal computing time...
loctran0323 2 days ago [-]
Yea good point, the branding clause is a real gotcha, technically "open source" but with that restriction baked in, which makes it source-available rather than properly free under the OSI definition. A lot of people don't realize until they try to fork or rebrand it for a team/customer deployment and hit the wall.
Conifer (launching tomorrow, June 1st) goes the other way on this, properly open source with no branding strings attached, so you can actually fork or rebrand if you need to. Local AI runtime + IDE, native on Mac/Linux/Windows: conifer.build
dikei 2 days ago [-]
Plus, if you look at OpenWebUI horror of a commit history, they don't often take external contributions.
bluejay2387 1 days ago [-]
I am a 'fan' of Open Web UI, but the document editing mode is a compelling feature that Open Web UI does not have. I'll probably wait a while before trying Odysseus... let the inevitable security problems work themselves out.
loctran0323 2 days ago [-]
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docheinestages 2 days ago [-]
I really wonder if people who make such projects actually use them on a regular basis. I cannot imagine myself working with these UIs.
flexagoon 2 days ago [-]
Does fit the rest of his desktop setup, so I guess he likes that stuff
This project is fun though! And the newest YT comments are very entertaining.
UltraSane 2 days ago [-]
PewDiePie is living an enviable life in Japan with his wife and kid doing cool projects.
kemayo 2 days ago [-]
> Odysseus
Is the person best known for exploiting security vulnerabilities to get into places you'd rather they didn't, and then getting lost and taking forever to get places the ideal namesake for your AI workspace project?
marginalia_nu 2 days ago [-]
Out of all the homeric heroes, the main characters are just one tragic flaw after another. Odysseus is pathologically distrustful, Achilles is a diva that throws temper tantrums.
You gotta pick a dude like Sarpedon who just was a swell guy poking holes in greeks with his spear until he gets killed by Patroclus and everyone is sad.
khimaros 2 days ago [-]
thank you for this, and also for your search engine
anigbrowl 2 days ago [-]
I'm rereading the Iliad right now and was just reflecting on the fact the first time you see Odysseus at work he's selling two incompatible flavors of bullshit to officers and their men, in service of a third flavor of bullshit that was decided upon in advance at a war council.
>Claude steals user's API keys then berates user for poor security practices
>Claude (via the subreddit's automod account) shows up in thread and roasts user again
cyanydeez 2 days ago [-]
keep in mind pewdiepie is probably the worst dev name ontop
2 days ago [-]
Nasrudith 2 days ago [-]
I can think of worse. Inspired by somewhat surrealist names of a cat video, I'm pretty sure naming them "HP Inkjet 3482" would be a worse name for an AI model and lead to copyright issues from Hewlett-Packard.
ahmazroot 2 days ago [-]
What would make an existing OpenUI/Open WebUI user switch to this?
jerieljan 2 days ago [-]
The thing that intrigues me on this one is the Opencode roots.
I've currently host both Open WebUI and Opencode on a server setup and there's multiple things that Open WebUI has implemented very nicely over time but it was also prior to the emergence of coding agents / harnesses. As such, its strengths is more on the `/chat/completions` era and RAG and its own functions and ecosystem setup before tool calls were a thing.
If this stuff works for you already, I think that's fine. That's not a bad thing, and if anything, they've made attempts to improve esp. with the recent backend upgrades and projects like `open-terminal`.
However, Opencode has been built for the coding agent setup since its early days and Odysseus gives me more confidence to run sessions much better knowing that it runs on an Opencode core.
Stuff like MCP support and a clearer lifecycle for example are things I've never really seen implemented well on open-webui (they've improved and support this now, but I'm biased and am salty of the era from its early days of MCP support when they insisted you place a bridge (mcpo) in between just to make it do MCP.). In contrast, opencode does this very well since what they built that works on the terminal also applies to the desktop app and the ACP support for IDEs that use it to connect to the opencode harness.
At the minimum, I expect Opencode to work wonderfully against the frontier models, and all models they host on their Zen and Go service, so that adds some confidence as well on complex workflows.
In contrast, I still find model management a pain in the ass on open-webui (has always relied on LiteLLM or a third-party inference gateway) just to wrangle the models. Hell, they still tag the Responses API "experimental" today, a format that's been around since over last year.
Does that transfer to Odysseus? Maybe, maybe not. Seems it's based on it but a quick check on code says they merely adapted it so maybe it's the latter. I haven't tried it at depth and idk how well Pewds has implemented it, but if it improves on that angle and gets maintainers that accepts contributions from the community, I feel like it'll do nicely.
It will be interesting to watch him deal with hundreds PRs.
selectedambient 2 days ago [-]
"gpt can you do these PRs for me"
fiatpandas 2 days ago [-]
Watching pewd's continually evolving AI-era tech journey has brough me a lot of joy.
petterroea 2 days ago [-]
Now waiting for some VC-backed AI company to pick up PewDiePie like they did with the OpenClaw guy.
dakolli 2 days ago [-]
Somehow he probably will make millions from this just cuz he has a personal brand, despite it being a pile of slop.
petterroea 2 days ago [-]
Oh yeah definitely, if he went in for doing software he would make millions for free.
stalinkay 2 days ago [-]
Whoa! Sounds interesting, I'll be taking a deep dive.
ttoinou 1 days ago [-]
Onyx CE self hosted looks better
Dzheky 2 days ago [-]
PewDiePie build a self hosted AI workspace. It looks interesting.
NamlchakKhandro 2 days ago [-]
No it doesn't.
There's already plenty of pimono / open code webui / electron wrappers
josht 2 days ago [-]
How does this compare to Hermes Agent?
solarity_studio 2 days ago [-]
I use Librechat
mastermage 2 days ago [-]
Is that by that PewDiePie?
micromacrofoot 2 days ago [-]
reminds me of the milla jovovich vibecoded ai memory project that got a little bit of hype but was mostly junk... guessing we're going to see a lot more "developer talked to a celebrity and came up with an idea for their money"
gregjw 2 days ago [-]
except pewdiepies actually the developer in this equation too, its not just attaching his name to it, hes building the projects
micromacrofoot 1 days ago [-]
it's pretty clear that AI is the developer in this equation
Poorfella 7 hours ago [-]
hi
Hash7777 1 days ago [-]
nice
trvz 2 days ago [-]
Wake me when you can increase the awfully tiny font size of the nav.
i write an agent in C, create my own models. crickets. pewdiepie gets into programming on a whim creates slop, 3k stars.
mutant 2 hours ago [-]
Don't forget milla jovovich.
boca_honey 2 days ago [-]
Are you one of the top 100 most famous people on planet earth?
What the hell were you expecting. Your slop will fade in history... his slop will linger for months, maybe a year or two.
Then no one will care or remember about any of this.
selectedambient 2 days ago [-]
accurate, but i’ll keep building anyway
627467 2 days ago [-]
Did you share your C agent and models? Would love to checkout
selectedambient 2 days ago [-]
sure i can share it. it started as a text editor that i incorporated an agent into then moved to a standalone agent. now i’ve got the editor, agent, and have begun work on actual from scratch models (these aren’t available yet), but i’ve been messing with fine tuning ollama coder models as something in the meantime. the goal is embedded models accessible to everyone offline. too many tasks require many less parameters than people are using on them and don’t need to be routed through data centers. mainly just built it for myself but figured others might find it neat and/or useful. it’s all C, no packages or third party libraries. also to be clear i’m not against ai, im against it making 100% of the decisions for you. outside of its own models it’s capable of OAuth with claude and gh. it can also api into many others. tooling is always ongoing maintenance and i’ve got the next version of basically all three of them on the back burner waiting to be pushed. so anyway, here’s my little setup, here’s to not getting killed in the comments. contributions also welcome.
https://github.com/mithraeums/hako-code
mbitai 9 hours ago [-]
nicely done. Thanks for sharing.
Yiin 2 days ago [-]
rich of you to talk about slop when your own 'handwritten' project has one c file with over 6.5k lines of code.
selectedambient 2 days ago [-]
did you not read the entire post? also correct the one file IS the entire thing. compiling one file on iSh on an iPhone actually works well.
andai 2 days ago [-]
you forgot step 1. become the #1 youtuber
c0rruptbytes 2 days ago [-]
AI doesn’t have a model or agent availability problem to be fair, it does have a positive outreach problem and pewdiepie can do extremely well there
just my 2c
selectedambient 2 days ago [-]
okay i watched his video on it, i can definitely abide.
folkrav 2 days ago [-]
Something something meritocracy blabla
Rekindle8090 2 days ago [-]
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pushpendra3000 2 days ago [-]
respect for what pewdiepie's trying to do (as he explains in his video) but this is just ai slop
pushpendra3000 2 days ago [-]
its dense in features but the amount of security concerns and improvements would be too difficult to maintain with the way its organised currently. let's see.
jebronie 1 days ago [-]
do you think Codex and Claude Desktop are written by hand? "ai slop" means nothing anymore
h4ch1 2 days ago [-]
God the UI design is atrocious.
dakolli 2 days ago [-]
All these inexperienced vibe coders build identical slop UI, but what's funny is they usually think its super unique and are super proud of it. I hate them all.
okr 2 days ago [-]
Who are you again?
jetbalsa 2 days ago [-]
Who are you again?
boca_honey 2 days ago [-]
A person that is expressing something a lot of real people are feeling. AI is churning out this terrible UI / graphic desing that looks the same, gives aways is just vibe coded slop and is VERY ugly.
Who are YOU?
SuperNinKenDo 1 days ago [-]
Is it called Odysseus because it's always spitting out verbose bullshit?
I didn't see it linked from the project; it seems pretty relevant given who he is.
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAzT5lcezPs
where he describes sending an AI generated email response as "the most polite fuck you to someone that they will never know".
The original email asked him sth like "how many parameters does deepseek v3 have" that "he could have easily searched himself".
https://github.com/pewdiepie-archdaemon/odysseus/commit/0517...
https://lemonade-server.ai/
TL/DR - "cleaner and more polished" implies no vibe coded slop, and the only reason people start these projects in 2026 is because they're addicted to vibe slop coding.
This project does look fun though.
Stuff like an agent mode, deep research and document work are things you'd be able to have with open-webui as well but Odysseus seems to have them thought out.
I don't know if that was a motivation for creating this, but it is a reason some people might choose not to use it.
I think it demonstrates how overuse of LLMs for brainstorming/planning and building destroys creativity. That zeitgeist changes from month to month, but when a vibe coded "AI Native" project gets released you'll always see dozens of people in the replies talking about the identical project they've also built or are working on.
I also notice this in my own work, the people who have most eaten the LLM brainworm will come to me asking for us to build the same projects. They all eventually converge to wanting some sort of power user app (like this) that can just do everything because AI is magic to them and there's no reason why it can't do everything.
I hate Peter Thiel but he has that famous quote form years ago where he says not to build the obvious thing because the obvious thing isn't special, so maybe this has always been a phenomenon.
Like I found a really cool project a few weeks ago that I started using and even made a few QoL changes to. Then I thought of the many other changes I wanted, and that the project was written in a language I'm not familiar with (Rust), and I started a port in what I know well (Python) so that I'll be able to actually review the code if needed and generally make better architectural decisions.
Conifer (launching tomorrow, June 1st) goes the other way on this, properly open source with no branding strings attached, so you can actually fork or rebrand if you need to. Local AI runtime + IDE, native on Mac/Linux/Windows: conifer.build
https://github.com/pewdiepie-archdaemon/dionysus/blob/dionys...
This project is fun though! And the newest YT comments are very entertaining.
Is the person best known for exploiting security vulnerabilities to get into places you'd rather they didn't, and then getting lost and taking forever to get places the ideal namesake for your AI workspace project?
You gotta pick a dude like Sarpedon who just was a swell guy poking holes in greeks with his spear until he gets killed by Patroclus and everyone is sad.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1r186gl/my_agent_...
>Claude steals user's API keys then berates user for poor security practices
>Claude (via the subreddit's automod account) shows up in thread and roasts user again
I've currently host both Open WebUI and Opencode on a server setup and there's multiple things that Open WebUI has implemented very nicely over time but it was also prior to the emergence of coding agents / harnesses. As such, its strengths is more on the `/chat/completions` era and RAG and its own functions and ecosystem setup before tool calls were a thing.
If this stuff works for you already, I think that's fine. That's not a bad thing, and if anything, they've made attempts to improve esp. with the recent backend upgrades and projects like `open-terminal`.
However, Opencode has been built for the coding agent setup since its early days and Odysseus gives me more confidence to run sessions much better knowing that it runs on an Opencode core.
Stuff like MCP support and a clearer lifecycle for example are things I've never really seen implemented well on open-webui (they've improved and support this now, but I'm biased and am salty of the era from its early days of MCP support when they insisted you place a bridge (mcpo) in between just to make it do MCP.). In contrast, opencode does this very well since what they built that works on the terminal also applies to the desktop app and the ACP support for IDEs that use it to connect to the opencode harness.
At the minimum, I expect Opencode to work wonderfully against the frontier models, and all models they host on their Zen and Go service, so that adds some confidence as well on complex workflows.
In contrast, I still find model management a pain in the ass on open-webui (has always relied on LiteLLM or a third-party inference gateway) just to wrangle the models. Hell, they still tag the Responses API "experimental" today, a format that's been around since over last year.
Does that transfer to Odysseus? Maybe, maybe not. Seems it's based on it but a quick check on code says they merely adapted it so maybe it's the latter. I haven't tried it at depth and idk how well Pewds has implemented it, but if it improves on that angle and gets maintainers that accepts contributions from the community, I feel like it'll do nicely.
There's already plenty of pimono / open code webui / electron wrappers
but with extra steps
Trash.
Pimono or go home
What the hell were you expecting. Your slop will fade in history... his slop will linger for months, maybe a year or two.
Then no one will care or remember about any of this.
just my 2c
Who are YOU?